November 29, 2009

Webhost migration — Part 3/3: Nexus of resellar webhosting’s evils

Filed under: Blog — krkhan @ 3:09 pm

You decide on buying a web-hosting package for your website, scan various web-hosts for competing features and then decide on one. Never taking into consideration that the particular web-host chosen by you might be based on reseller web-hosting. Why would that matter anyway?

Well, it does matter and after spending 3 years paying for my decision to stick with one such web-host, I can assure you that it matters a lot. Here’s why:

The Problem

First of all, let’s define what reseller web-hosts are (with help from Wikipedia):

Reseller hosting is a form of web hosting wherein the account owner has the ability to use his/her allotted hard drive space and bandwidth to host websites on behalf of third parties.

Simply put: If you’re buying your web-hosting package from a reseller host, they have in turn bought it from a different host. Ultimately, the technology, hardware and the control of your website belongs to a 3rd-party with whom you never have direct contact. Instead, you deal with the “middle” man, the one who sold you the package.

Inherently, that brings an extraneous level of management-oriented redirection in a product that is already a jumbled up mess of technology and business. The result: Whenever you have a technical issue with your website, you’re left hanging in between the “real” troubleshooters and the people who sold you the packages. An example would portray these issues more accurately.

Case Study: Nexus Technologies

Testimonials from John Doe

In November of 2006, I needed a domain name for my blog. In Pakistan, the most prominent web-hosts at the time were Nexus Technologies. While the packages they offered had very little webspace and bandwidth compared to foreign offerings, I decided to stick with them since their office was only a couple of blocks away from my home. I was deluded by the prospect of visiting their office and having my website hitches solved quickly if any occur. Also, I have to admit that the “anonymous” testimonials from their website, such as this one, got to me:

“I wanted to thank you again for helping me with my database problem. I could not ask for better service.” — Shahnawaz

Who the f*** is Shahnawaz? If he is one of their happier customers, why couldn’t they link back to his website? Didn’t occur to me back then, and I took the risk.

The lost backups

I started my blog in January of the next year. And within a couple of months I encountered my first bothersome issue. My website had “rolled back” to a month-old state. That is, in March 2007 I discovered that all the blog posts created in the previous month are lost and the latest post surviving is from early February.

Attempts to contact the “24/7” support didn’t work at all for 2 whole days. Prompting me to proclaim in the ticket:

The 24/7 technical support claim on the home page of Nexus is just another in the series of bogus promotional materials conjured by its marketing department. Most probably, the 24/7 means support for 7 hours per day for 24 days of a month.

And I couldn’t have been more right about the support schedule. Three days after I raised the issue, I was granted a backup from mid-February. The guy on help-line told me that it was the most that they could do since the latest weekly backup “got corrupted”. Classic stuff.

The 2-month long support ticket — setting Guinness records for incompetence

Somehow, through all the regular downtimes and support f***-ups, I renewed my hosting package with Nexus twice since I didn’t want to go through the troubles of migration. Then, on 18th of August this year I noticed that statistics stopped working on my domain. For such a harmless little issue like this one, I created an equally harmless ticket:

Posted On: 18 Aug 2009 10:34 PM by Kamran Riaz Khan
None of the statistics software are working on my domain. All of them show zero-ed stats for everything after 4th August, 2009. If I try to download raw access logs, they contain nothing but thousands of repetitions of “combined”.

Three days of inactivity, and I tried to follow up:

Posted On: 21 Aug 2009 04:31 PM by Kamran Riaz Khan
In the new CPanel log manager, it says that stats programs are locked out by the administrator.

The reply reeking of corporate lingo and technical ineptitude:

Posted On: 21 Aug 2009 06:09 PM by Fawad Alam
Thank you for contacting Nexus.

I have forwarded your request to the concerned department, they’ll reply to this ticket as soon as possible.

Your patience on this issue is appreciated.

The next day:

Posted On: 22 Aug 2009 09:04 AM by Farooq
Thank you for contacting Nexus.

kindly let us know from where you are checking your stats,we have checked your stats and Awstats are working and showing properly,you can check out your stats in control panel in Logs section.

If you have any question, Please don’t hesitate to contact us again.

And my support ticket was closed regardless of the fact that I hadn’t confirmed yet that the issue had been resolved. A little annoyed, I reopened it:

Posted On: 22 Aug 2009 01:06 PM by Kamran Riaz Khan
I have had my share of being handled by poor customer support but this takes the cake.

First of all, attached are the screenshots and the raw access log:

1) cPanel X – Choose Log Programs.png
2) Awstats – Statistics for (2009-08) – main.png
3) Webalizer – Usage Statistics for – August 2009.png
4) accesslog_inspirated.com_8_22_2009

As evident from everything, nothing’s working after 4th August. But, let me go through the support I’ve been given by Nexus:

1) No reply at all for days after opening of ticket.
2) When someone did notice the issue, they couldn’t track it down.
3) Instead of keeping the ticket open until I confirmed the status, they closed the ticket on their own.

I have been a disgruntled customer of Nexus for the past 3 years. So summarizing my experience with your tech support all this time, my next ticket will hopefully be about changing the nameservers on my domain.

And the deja vu response:

Posted On: 22 Aug 2009 01:36 PM by Huma Zafar
Thank you for contacting Nexus.

Please note that we have rectify the problem and forwarded it to the Senior Technical Administrator,you will be updated as soon as he will resolve it.

We are sorry for the inconvenience you faced for this issue.

If you have any question, Please don’t hesitate to contact us again.

Translate it as: “We have absolutely f*** all idea about what we’re doing here, so we have asked the people who sold us reseller hosting to save our unprofessional selves”.

Almost two-weeks later, the “Senior Technical Administrator” jumped in:

Posted On: 08 Sep 2009 08:14 AM by Sam
Thank you for contacting Nexus.

I apologize for the delayed response from our send. This issue was raised with our control panel company, and till date no response has been received from them.

We would like to try and move your account to another server which has working stats which would hopefully resolve whatever issue is causing stats to fail on your current server.

Kindly send us an appropriate time for this to be carried out and I shall ensure this is taken care of on a priority basis.

Regardless of the fact that I found it highly amusing that a “Senior Technical Administrator” is referring to a customer problem as “whatever issue is causing to fail”, I responded politely:

Posted On: 08 Sep 2009 08:41 PM by Kamran Riaz Khan
Thanks for the reply. I have two questions I would like answered before I choose a migration time:

A) Is the issue only on my account or is it being reported by other shared accounts on the Aiur server too?
B) How long will the migration take.

And a decent response than the ones I had before:

Posted On: 09 Sep 2009 04:30 AM by Sam
Thank you for contacting Nexus.

The issue is on a limited number of accounts at this time.

The migration process should take no more then 30 minutes and your site will not be offline during this process. Since there will be a change in IP address of your site, it is recommend that this be carried out in the later half of the day.

Kindly let us know how to proceed.

Fed-up with the non-working stats, I wanted the whole thing to be over as soon as possible:

Posted On: 09 Sep 2009 07:37 PM by Kamran Riaz Khan
Okay, do it at any time you consider to be suitable for such process. Just notify me beforehand so that you don’t end up with another ticket about downtime.

On a “priority basis”, nothing happened for 17 days:

Posted On: 27 Sep 2009 12:00 PM by Kamran Riaz Khan
Awaiting a reply.

Five days later:

Posted On: 02 Oct 2009 10:18 AM by S. Ali
Thank you for contacting Nexus.

You reported an issue with the Statistics for your website, kindly check now the issue has been fixed now.

We are sorry for the inconvenience.

If you have any question, Please don’t hesitate to contact us again.

And the ticket was closed, again. Vexed, I put it simply:

Posted On: 03 Oct 2009 12:19 AM by Kamran Riaz Khan
The issue is present with the exact same behavior.

To which, I was treated with the same old “we’re douchebags without a hint of what’s happening” response:

Posted On: 03 Oct 2009 11:30 AM by S. Ali
Thank you for contacting Nexus.

We are sorry for the inconvenience, as there is still a problem with the stats.

We are in contact with the Cpanel team to look into this issue ans resolve it as soon as possible.

If you have any question, Please don’t hesitate to contact us again.

I really didn’t care about the morons or their support anymore. So, I never replied until two weeks later I got this:

Posted On: 15 Oct 2009 03:56 PM by S. Ali
Thank you for contacting Nexus.

Kindly note that the Web Stats does not get generated as your hosting space is almost full i.e 140.76/150 MB

Once you upgrade your account to next package or delete some of the files from server the issue should get resolved.

If you have any question, Please don’t hesitate to contact us again.

The whole thing had just become unbelievable. Really, really unbelievable. After 2 months of clumsy substandard support, I was being given the upgrade-your-account treatment. A casual customer would probably have been duped by this tactic, I was furious:

Posted On: 15 Oct 2009 10:01 PM by Kamran Riaz Khan
Nice way of marketing your packages.

I delete all the files in /tmp, the account uses 119.96 MBs now and still, no logs.

I don’t know of a logs program which needs more than 30 MBs just to start.

And the attached screenshot clearly shows the “logs locked by admin” message still in the panel.

You people have annoyed me to a point where I’m forced to use an expletive just for the sake of it.

Here it is: F*** your support and its attempts to misguide the customers and save their own asses.

And four days later — on October 18 — the issue was resolved by migrating the server.

“Everything we sell is gold”

Still, when my registration with Nexus was expiring I thought of checking out their newer plans. This time, I found out that there were “Personal” packages which offered tens of times more features and storage space than “Business” packages in the same price-range. Just for fun, I decided to call their help-line and ask for the difference between the two plans. Intriguingly, they could come up with none.

When I asked why Personal packages have crazy amount of features compared to their Business counterparts, the reply I got was: “Business packages are when you need reliability, Personal otherwise”. Logically, this implied that personal packages were not as much reliable as Business ones. When I paraphrased that to the support guy, he replied: “No sir, Personal packages have a 99.99% of uptime”.


Never opt for web-hosts which are dependent on reseller hosting. Go for Dreamhost, Go Daddy, Host Gator or any of the thousand others but be sure that they have the technical expertise and control to cope up with any possible technical issues that you’ll encounter. Also, never trust anonymous testimonials. Ask around other customers of a web-host for a general impression, especially those who have had some technical troubles with their websites.

Also, maintain a distance of at least three-clicks from Nexus Technologies (ignoring the link on this page, of course).

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  1. I think you, I mean the Author of this blog gone mad!
    Who cares about your blog, there are at least one visit every day on your blog and which is most probably be you, yourself!

    Go To Hell – GTH

    Comment by Kamran — December 1, 2009 @ 9:54 am

  2. LOLZ you F*****

    Comment by Riaz — December 1, 2009 @ 10:25 am

  3. hahaha nic story in which you f*****

    Comment by Riaz — December 1, 2009 @ 10:26 am

  4. Amusing o_O when someone has the guts to speak up, they tell them to “Go to Hell”? I guess, going to hell would be a much better option if heaven is filled by people like you ^^

    Comment by Ishba — December 1, 2009 @ 10:47 pm

  5. @Anonymous: It’s always nice to have trolls decorate a post’s comments.

    Comment by krkhan — December 1, 2009 @ 11:59 pm

  6. Why you are crying here go and sue them… AS%%OLe

    Comment by Fateh — December 2, 2009 @ 9:27 am

  7. @Ishba : If he got the Guts ask him to go and fight with them why crying here in an empty room!

    Comment by Rogger — December 2, 2009 @ 9:28 am

  8. Lol, I don’t have to sue anyone. I bought a company’s services, they were pathetic. I moved on to another company and wrote about my experiences with the former for warning any of their potential future customers.

    But, judging by the fact that I’m getting troll flames on the post, I guess my write-up has succeeded in creating a stir among Nexus fans.

    Comment by krkhan — December 2, 2009 @ 11:05 am

  9. What can we do for you, you poor little loser champ… Keep Crying

    Comment by Dj_Harris — January 1, 2010 @ 11:33 am

  10. @Dj_Harris: Perhaps a sad little thing like you can do no better than doing s*** on people’s blog ^^ next time, come up with some facts to substantiate your case rather than just crying, kiddo.

    Comment by Gloria — March 14, 2010 @ 7:09 pm

  11. I agree 100% with what you said. Very very unprofessional lot, these third party hosting service resellers! Looks like i am stuck for a year though :-)

    Comment by sheharbano — December 20, 2011 @ 7:15 pm

  12. 100 % true!!! No, 101% true

    Comment by sheharbano — December 20, 2011 @ 7:34 pm

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